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	<title>Comments on: Pagans protest at treatment of the Norse God Thor</title>
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		<title>By: StormJewel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 10:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kenneth S. Doig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth S. Doig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 05:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop referring to these Pan-Germanic gods by only the later Norse names only. Most ancient, medieval and modern Germanic-speaking nations, Germany, the Netherlands, anglophones called and still call these gods by their more ancient forms, the forms phonologically closer to proto-Germanic, &quot;Thunor&quot;, &quot;Donner&quot;, &quot;Donder&quot;, &quot;Donar&quot; (thunder), from the PGmc *thunoraz, *thunraz, later thru Norse-specific sound-processes, e.g. *thunoraz&gt;*thõraz&gt; *thoraz &gt;*thoraR then to later recorded Old West Norse Þórr. This form came NOT into existence until quite later, around 750 AD, as the god Thunor had been worshipped for at least 2 millenia by the pre-germanic IE tribes, by the early and Proto-Germans (who were ALL from a southern Scandinavian urheimat) up unto the 12 century in Sweden. Same basic deal with Woden, from PGmc *W?ðanaz, the w-less form not utter till norse had lost the initial w-sound before rounded vowels around 800AD. In other words, Odin and Thor are very late pronunciations used by but a small minority of the germanic tribes who had remained in the Scandinavian urheimat. We should start ALSO calling them by their other, more original forms of their names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop referring to these Pan-Germanic gods by only the later Norse names only. Most ancient, medieval and modern Germanic-speaking nations, Germany, the Netherlands, anglophones called and still call these gods by their more ancient forms, the forms phonologically closer to proto-Germanic, &#8220;Thunor&#8221;, &#8220;Donner&#8221;, &#8220;Donder&#8221;, &#8220;Donar&#8221; (thunder), from the PGmc *thunoraz, *thunraz, later thru Norse-specific sound-processes, e.g. *thunoraz&gt;*thõraz&gt; *thoraz &gt;*thoraR then to later recorded Old West Norse Þórr. This form came NOT into existence until quite later, around 750 AD, as the god Thunor had been worshipped for at least 2 millenia by the pre-germanic IE tribes, by the early and Proto-Germans (who were ALL from a southern Scandinavian urheimat) up unto the 12 century in Sweden. Same basic deal with Woden, from PGmc *W?ðanaz, the w-less form not utter till norse had lost the initial w-sound before rounded vowels around 800AD. In other words, Odin and Thor are very late pronunciations used by but a small minority of the germanic tribes who had remained in the Scandinavian urheimat. We should start ALSO calling them by their other, more original forms of their names.</p>
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